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[ark]

so a 4 days ago i was doing a contract gig with a group of 8 guys i usually am good to judge at judging what kind of people i will be dealing with besides the obvious.

so near the end of the night a fight broke out and i wasn't thinking i just reacted and i got hit 2 times from behind and that all i remember. when i came too couple of the guys were over top of me. so the information i got so far because i lost about 25 minutes of my time after the initial 2 hits from behind i turned around and hit the guy hard enough he went down, the group saw this but instead of reasoning these alcahol driven guys stopped there fighting and actualy decided to join forces and come at me. then my team got involved one guy was holding me back because i guess he realized i was reacting and not exactly thinking at that point. When i came to the police were involved and i was shipped to the hospital with minor injuries. bruised ribs sprained hand hairline fracture in my arm and bruised body mostly

im a wee bit high off these pain killers right now but i started thinking perhaps i should really produce protective gear that can prevent me from getting hurt this much, i mean i did good nothing is broken except my arm and that will heal in 2 weeks (i hope) but i really think this is a lesson i should take to heart and make something that is made for me and i could use it while i do my walks as well as work.

thought i should share this i might be on more because im taking a month of work.

[The Muse]

Protective gear is a GREAT idea, especially if you are going to be getting involved in the physical aspects of patrols. I would be lying if I said I wasnt concerned or worried. I am not certain EXACTLY where you are located and patrol, but it sounds like a somewhat rough area. Im glad your team member restrained you from acting further, or you may have been SERIOUSLY injured, as in a life threatening way. Stay safe please.

[ark]

In all honesty I'm better off in my walks then me with a security tag on me

[rook]

What kind of armor to wear when is always a huge discussion among RLSHs. If you want to stir something up, just ask "should I wear kevlar?" It's always good for a thread that will last for a few days.

It always ends the same: Dress for the occasion. If you're busting up fights, Ark, it's a good idea to wear something protective. You don't necessarily need to go all out, but something akin to what a motocross rider might wear will go far for protection in a regular bout of fisticuffs.

-Rook

[The Muse]

I am curious...will kevlar stop a knife blade? If so, would it be a practical sort of material to make some reinforced body protection with?

[rook]

No, Kevlar, being a kind of fabric, doesn't stop knives; it gets cut. There are actual stab-resistant vests (which are cheaper than Kevlar), and I am told that there are combo stab/bullet resistant vests and such available, but they are prohibitively expensive...and kind of heavy.

This is why some RLSHs who make it their "thing" to bust up barfights (e.g., Urban Avenger) wear stab resistant vests rather than Kevlar, as it's more likely that they'll be stabbed than shot.

There was a webpage some time ago that detailed one individual's attempts to recreate a Japanese breastblate that was made from rice paper and fabric. It would certainly never stop a bullet, but was pretty resistant to stabs and strikes.

-Rook

[The Muse]

wow...I wouldnt have thought rice paper would be resistant to ANYTHING....now you have aroused my curiousity....*goes off to look and see what she can find*

[ark]

myself i have both, ther are ways to make your kevlar stab proof but it unfortunatly makes your 15-30 pound vest significantly heavier depending on what you put in it, some peoplego and put steal plating myself i found a way to use tempered plexy glass. it is lighter and it capable of stopping most edged weapons plus if some one hits yea with a blunt object they get the satisfaction sound of a thud and not a ting noise that would divert them to find a less vulnerable location to hit such as arm's legs and even head. plus if some one stabs you with plexy they also have the thought of hitting somthing such as actualy hitting the chest sternim or a rib. it will also stick in there a wee bit so it adds shock value for the attacker if its his first time doing somthing like that.

Im working on abulky sweatshirt to act as a carrier for arms and chest somthing that is flexable doesn't look stiff and also easy to replace the plates and also not easily seen. so far it seems i would have to put on an undershirt with the carrier and then attach the under carrier to the actual sweatshirt, so far its actualy working out but i cant try it because well, i still have this blasted cast on. im trying for plated first so its stab resistant. there is no point in making a kevlar one though, reason being is simply if i got shot in the arm it will still do significant damage im better off at letting the bullet do its own thing, now the shoulder and the chest and grind area thats a diffrent story because all parts are priority especialy the grind and chest area.

so wish me luck

[The Muse]

Please be careful my friend. I see that you obviously take precautions, so you will have to forgive me for witting just a tad

[The Muse]

Stupid auto correct....that was supposed to say worrying